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Who will be the GOP candidate in 2024? (3 Viewers)

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knowing what we know now, the only disqualifying offense to the GOP is siding with liberals... maybe being poor also.
I would edit that to say "siding against Trump"

There is no rational explanation for 100+ GOP congresspeople signing on to the Texas lawsuit other than fear of Trump, and fearing the wrath of Trump supporters.

Its not enough to be a traditional conservative to win the support of the Trump coalition.

 
Why is Kasich even a poll option? Barack Obama has a better chance of winning the Republican nomination in 2024 than Kasich. 

 
I would edit that to say "siding against Trump"

There is no rational explanation for 100+ GOP congresspeople signing on to the Texas lawsuit other than fear of Trump, and fearing the wrath of Trump supporters.

Its not enough to be a traditional conservative to win the support of the Trump coalition.
The new definition of Liberal is "against Trump".  Actual bona-fide liberals are now referred to as "socialists".

 
TrumpTV will put up a candidate and that person will be the instant favorite. those 70mil are too entrenched now. brattishness will be the major quality sought, so the usual suspects are out

 
The lawsuit will be long forgotten water under the bridge by 2024.
How about helping the Secretary of the VA trash a sexual assault victim? Think that will stick? Is that even a negative to the Trump fans?
Remains to be seen if Crenshaw played a big role regarding the alleged victim. He has the right to speak his mind and if he happens to have relevant information then he should be allowed to submit it. If the VA Secretary used that info for a smear campaign, that's not Crenshaw's fault.

It won't play at all in the Republican primary, then he can pivot to "Democrats do it too" for the general.

 
I like Dan Crenshaw. He's a vet and he can troll the libs, so that checks two of the main boxes for me.
Crenshaw has flip flopped on some issues, such as immigration, to appease Trump, which makes him look weak. He also called solar a "silly solution" that doesn't work. What's his solution on the healthcare crisis? He thought the COVID-19 crisis was overblown, and didn't always wear masks when appropriate. What does he think now?

If you want a strong veteran, how about Tammy Duckworth or mayor Pete?

 
Trump is a heart attack waiting to happen.

His health alone should eliminate any chance for a 2024 run.

 
Trump is a heart attack waiting to happen.

His health alone should eliminate any chance for a 2024 run.
Age, obesity and that unexplained visit to Walter Reed.  But his blood pressure is good and cholesterol is controlled with meds, so his risk for a heart attack is not too high in the next 4 years.

I think his appearance will deteriorate and Melania will pressure him not to run again, for her and Barron.

 
Age, obesity and that unexplained visit to Walter Reed.  But his blood pressure is good and cholesterol is controlled with meds, so his risk for a heart attack is not too high in the next 4 years.

I think his appearance will deteriorate and Melania will pressure him not to run again, for her and Barron.
Curious about the choices to pick for the GOP with one being Melania. Why would she ever want to and who thinks she is even remotely qualified.You think Donald wants to be the first man or gentleman in the White House? And she was not born in this country so she can’t run.....I guess I missed the humor when she was listed as a choice.

 
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Age, obesity and that unexplained visit to Walter Reed.  But his blood pressure is good and cholesterol is controlled with meds, so his risk for a heart attack is not too high in the next 4 years.

I think his appearance will deteriorate and Melania will pressure him not to run again, for her and Barron.
Over/under on Melania's incoming serving of divorce papers is probably at about 6 months.

 
Think it will be someone as populist as Trump, but more openly white nationalist. 
More openly white nationalist than "literally Hitler"?

ETA: Whoever it is, get ready to hear the phrase "worse than Trump" repeated ad nauseum by the media and their lemmings.

 
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There's no room for Kasich in today's Republican party. He has no shot.
Probably right so whatever party Kasich is in, I’m in also. 
I think we will see a split by 2024 or a true 3rd party candidate. Let MAGA party run whatever Trump they want and the Bush/Romney/Kasich wing of the party will run someone even if under a different name. Maybe Cuban actually runs either as the anti-MAGA Republican or a 3rd party that picks up the giant chunk of republicans fleeing MAGA.

 
Of that list it's Kasich :shrug:  

and I'm on board :hifive:  
Once you get past the big talk you’re  going to find out he didn’t do that great a job as Governor.  Recently, his right hand man got popped in a huge utility scandal.  I think his political career is over.   

 
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Probably right so whatever party Kasich is in, I’m in also. 
I think we will see a split by 2024 or a true 3rd party candidate. Let MAGA party run whatever Trump they want and the Bush/Romney/Kasich wing of the party will run someone even if under a different name. Maybe Cuban actually runs either as the anti-MAGA Republican or a 3rd party that picks up the giant chunk of republicans fleeing MAGA.
Unfortunately the percentage of the party that has integrity and a conscience is too small to break off and split the party. Trumpism rules the party.

 
More openly white nationalist than "literally Hitler"?

ETA: Whoever it is, get ready to hear the phrase "worse than Trump" repeated ad nauseum by the media and their lemmings.
Who on the slate can be "worse than Trump"?  Don Jr. is the only one who comes to mind....and he's only worse than Trump because he's younger and he'll be running 4 years from now and everyone knows that with inflation the simply the level of abrasiveness that Sr. has shown won't be worth the same amount in 4 years...so Jr. is going to have to up the abrasivness.....

 
:shrug:

Easily.  I didn’t vote for Biden. 
This doesn't make any sense.  Are you reading the posts?  Biden isn't on that list, so I have no idea what he has to do with any of this. The standard you set in your post, disqualifies almost all the people on that GOP list :shrug:   

 
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This doesn't make any sense.  Are you reading the posts?  Biden isn't on that list, so I have no idea what he has to do with any of this. The standard you set in your post, disqualifies almost all the people on that GOP list :shrug:   


This kind of thing matters to the GOP now?  How can you say this stuff with a straight face especially with the list provided?
You are accusing ME of being disingenuous and taking a dig at ALL Republicans at a time people supported Biden in light of all the smoke around his family.  If you are a Biden supporter, you can’t use that card and maintain credibility to get in that kind of dig. 
 

I was simply commenting on corruption from a Kasich confidante that if you educate yourself on the Ohio Speaker of the House scandal, you would probably realize it is much worse than anything anyone on the list has been involved in and had been credibly proven.  

 
You are accusing ME of being disingenuous and taking a dig at ALL Republicans at a time people supported Biden in light of all the smoke around his family.  If you are a Biden supporter, you can’t use that card and maintain credibility to get in that kind of dig. 
 

I was simply commenting on corruption from a Kasich confidante that if you educate yourself on the Ohio Speaker of the House scandal, you would probably realize it is much worse than anything anyone on the list has been involved in and had been credibly proven.  
I didn't accuse you of anything.  I asked a question.  It's pretty laughable for someone to be playing the "corruption" card these days.  I certainly haven't.  You did though....and you played it as if it mattered in some meaningful way and it's tough to see how it does matter given the list provided.  

As far as Biden's concerned, I'm happy to see all of it play out just like I did with Trump.  If something meaningful comes of it, I'll say so, just like I did with Trump.  You won't find me screaming "hoax" or "witch hunt" or any of that nonsense.  I'll certainly be consistent.  You won't be able to say the same :shrug: ....at least not with a straight face.  As a matter of fact, I'll go out on a limb right now and say Biden is as likely to be removed from office as Trump was.  All this scandal will be (at least on these forums) is a bunch of people trying to convince themselves how THEIR behavior is different from the side they railed against during the Trump fiasco.

 
You are accusing ME of being disingenuous and taking a dig at ALL Republicans at a time people supported Biden in light of all the smoke around his family.  If you are a Biden supporter, you can’t use that card and maintain credibility to get in that kind of dig. 
 

I was simply commenting on corruption from a Kasich confidante that if you educate yourself on the Ohio Speaker of the House scandal, you would probably realize it is much worse than anything anyone on the list has been involved in and had been credibly proven.  
I've been down this road before..It's like running through a pool of pudding.   

 
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Who will be the nominee, vs who has the best chance of winning, is a good question.

Haley I think might stand the best chance to win in 2024 as a challenger. (if Biden runs for re-election especially)

Who WILL be the nominee though? Whoever can best marshal the MAGA energy and populist loyalty. If Trump legit wants to - then he probably will be it. I doubt he will want to, but none of us know his true thoughts on the matter.  Most of the main characters don't have the charisma needed for MAGA love though - Cruz, Rubio, etc... not gonna cut it.  That's where Tucker or Crenshaw have the edge.

 
Crenshaw has flip flopped on some issues, such as immigration, to appease Trump, which makes him look weak. He also called solar a "silly solution" that doesn't work. What's his solution on the healthcare crisis? He thought the COVID-19 crisis was overblown, and didn't always wear masks when appropriate. What does he think now?


Dan Crenshaw Deconstructs the Green New Deal | Joe Rogan

801,913 views •Aug 20, 2019

Taken from JRE #1337 w/Dan Crenshaw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm-Gl594jYc

What's Wrong with Wind and Solar?

2,090,020 views • Sep 14, 2020 PragerU

Are wind, solar, and batteries the magical solutions to all our energy needs? Or do they come with too high a price? Mark Mills, Senior Fellow at the Manhattan Institute, analyzes the true cost — both economic and environmental — of so-called green energy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqppRC37OgI

******

Crenshaw's position on renewable energy can't be broken down into one sound bite. It's a complex topic. His concerns are considered mainstream concerns within the industry itself.  He has a military command background, and as such, he's looking at the entire logistical chain to solar ( as well as wind) energy against the projected rate of return.

Here's where Crenshaw has value to the RNC in 2024

1) He IMMEDIATELY can lock in Trump's core base. That means even today and that will still be true in 2024.  It's unlikely Haley, Pence, Cruz, Carlson and the like can do that.

2) He is NOT aligned with Trump as directly as Ted Cruz, Matt Gaetz, Jim Jordan, etc, etc. Meaning moderates and undecideds can't be weaponized against the RNC using basic Orange Man bad themes

3) He offers a nice counter balance to Nikki Haley on the same ticket, and it could be fairly argued that Haley couldn't win the 2024 election for POTUS. That being said, a Haley/Crenshaw or a Crenshaw/Haley ticket will look more palatable to many people compared to the Biden/Harris/AOC/Newsom roster that will likely represent the DNC.

4) In the modern woke/cancel culture, like Haley, he's very difficult to "cancel". He's boring and plain in nature, that doesn't help, but it's a more moderate Republican compared to Trump's attacking/trolling/controversial style. Someone boring is exactly the right kind of fit after a run of Trump and Biden/Harris.

5) Wesley Hunt is just not ready. The RNC would probably prefer Hunt but at this stage, he's about 6 years away.

Crenshaw is not flawless. He falls back on his military service far too often as a political narrative. He's gotta being other things to the table. He's not as savvy with social media as he should be given his situation ( He's not from political legacy/big old money) He lacks any kind of real charisma at all.  He's not that great  of a public speaker.  He's intelligent and  appears reasonable and reliable.

Success in politics often comes down to timing. Crenshaw is at the "right time" given his situation/disposition.

The criticism of Crenshaw are relatively tame in context. Trump has decades of scandal before POTUS. Biden took Burisma money and authored the Crime Bill and has said unfavorable things about gays and blacks. Newsom took PG&E money after they killed citizens of CA he was supposed to protect. Harris punished young black men as AG, slept her way up in politics and couldn't get her own parties ticket herself. AOC is pushing for GND, which is exponentially more costly than anything ever conceived in human history.

Boring works.

 
Dan Crenshaw Deconstructs the Green New Deal | Joe Rogan

801,913 views •Aug 20, 2019

Taken from JRE #1337 w/Dan Crenshaw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm-Gl594jYc

What's Wrong with Wind and Solar?

2,090,020 views • Sep 14, 2020 PragerU

Are wind, solar, and batteries the magical solutions to all our energy needs? Or do they come with too high a price? Mark Mills, Senior Fellow at the Manhattan Institute, analyzes the true cost — both economic and environmental — of so-called green energy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqppRC37OgI

******

Crenshaw's position on renewable energy can't be broken down into one sound bite. It's a complex topic. His concerns are considered mainstream concerns within the industry itself.  He has a military command background, and as such, he's looking at the entire logistical chain to solar ( as well as wind) energy against the projected rate of return.

Here's where Crenshaw has value to the RNC in 2024

1) He IMMEDIATELY can lock in Trump's core base. That means even today and that will still be true in 2024.  It's unlikely Haley, Pence, Cruz, Carlson and the like can do that.

2) He is NOT aligned with Trump as directly as Ted Cruz, Matt Gaetz, Jim Jordan, etc, etc. Meaning moderates and undecideds can't be weaponized against the RNC using basic Orange Man bad themes

3) He offers a nice counter balance to Nikki Haley on the same ticket, and it could be fairly argued that Haley couldn't win the 2024 election for POTUS. That being said, a Haley/Crenshaw or a Crenshaw/Haley ticket will look more palatable to many people compared to the Biden/Harris/AOC/Newsom roster that will likely represent the DNC.

4) In the modern woke/cancel culture, like Haley, he's very difficult to "cancel". He's boring and plain in nature, that doesn't help, but it's a more moderate Republican compared to Trump's attacking/trolling/controversial style. Someone boring is exactly the right kind of fit after a run of Trump and Biden/Harris.

5) Wesley Hunt is just not ready. The RNC would probably prefer Hunt but at this stage, he's about 6 years away.

Crenshaw is not flawless. He falls back on his military service far too often as a political narrative. He's gotta being other things to the table. He's not as savvy with social media as he should be given his situation ( He's not from political legacy/big old money) He lacks any kind of real charisma at all.  He's not that great  of a public speaker.  He's intelligent and  appears reasonable and reliable.

Success in politics often comes down to timing. Crenshaw is at the "right time" given his situation/disposition.

The criticism of Crenshaw are relatively tame in context. Trump has decades of scandal before POTUS. Biden took Burisma money and authored the Crime Bill and has said unfavorable things about gays and blacks. Newsom took PG&E money after they killed citizens of CA he was supposed to protect. Harris punished young black men as AG, slept her way up in politics and couldn't get her own parties ticket herself. AOC is pushing for GND, which is exponentially more costly than anything ever conceived in human history.

Boring works.
Compared with Trump, all candidates are boring. Crenshaw did a good job on SNL when Pete Davidson apologized for making fun of his eye patch. He speaks fluent Spanish, a result of living in Ecuador and Columbia while his father was a petroleum engineer. That should help with the Hispanic vote. I'm ready for boring, and young, but he's a long shot.

 
Voted Kasich but that's just selfish/wishful thinking. 

Other would be the correct answer most likely. 

 

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