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2024 FBG Subscriber Contest (2 Viewers)

Playing with the analyzer…

I’m the only team with this group of my top 5 RBs:

RB Najee Harris - $17
RB Devin Singletary - $15
RB Javonte Williams - $14
RB Brian Robinson Jr. - $13
RB Jerome Ford - $11


Only 3 teams have my top 5 WRs:
WR DK Metcalf - $21
WR Terry McLaurin - $19
WR Courtland Sutton - $13
WR Rashee Rice - $13
WR Khalil Shakir - $10


And only 10 teams have my TE combo:
TE Dalton Kincaid - $22
TE Jake Ferguson - $17
TE Taysom Hill - $8


ETA: I’ve basically assembled a team of 3rd to 6th round redraft picks :)

I have 4/5 of your RBs, none of your WRs, and all three of your TEs. Needless to say, nice team!
 
Bottom line: I think participation in the Subscriber Contest all boils down to common sense economics. I'm not sure we should be really be surprised that more people do not enter. And in defense of keeping the contest.... with 11,695 entries, I believe only $2 per subscription likely covers the cost of the contest prize pool.

I think peak interest in something like the Subscriber Contest was probably a decade ago. Once DFS became mainstream there were way more compelling options, and now with legal sports betting there are even more. It's a free contest so no one's complaining, but the reality is the price of a FBG subscription has gone up probably 3-4x in the last 20 years and the grand prize is actually less now than it was back then. And I imagine the cognitive load of putting together an 18+ player salary cap roster that has to last all season for a tiny shot at a prize isn't worth the effort for most folks. You can hop on DraftKings right now and build a lineup in seconds that will give you a shot at winning $1M tonight.

Like a lot of folks here, I do it mainly for the challenge, and the discussion, and nostalgia. At this point it's been 20 years, it's an annual tradition for me. But if some other site launched a similar free contest I doubt I'd waste the time to enter. I just don't think it's that compelling for most folks.

Thanks for the feedback. That's super interesting when we're putting $35,000 actual dollars into it.

This is helpful to know and we'll factor this in for the future.
 
"Morning after" Trivia...

I think most will agree that we had really had a great game last night to kick off the 2024 season. We saw a lot of what we had been waiting for, and if I said the outcome was not decided until the final second, even THAT would be an understatement, because the outcome was actually not decided until after the game was actually over, when the Isaiah Likely TD reception call was overturned after review.

I'm sure most of you guys did the same thing I did this morning, which was look at the standings and verify your team's points from last night. In doing so you could not help but notice team #108353 at the top of the standings with 130.25 points after one game. But I'll be the first to go on record to say team #108353 will be eliminated in week 6 if not before. A closer look at the roster shows that this team has 11 players on bye in week 6, including 8 Kansas City Chiefs. Those 8 players account for 51% of the potential points that the gurus at FootballGuys project that those players will score this season. So I'll raise my glass and offer a toast 🥂 to team 108353 ! Enjoy it while it lasts. If somehow that team survives week 6, it will likely have a great shot at surviving the rest of the season.

When adding my 4th TE to my roster entry, I went back and forth between several options with my last $9, and decided on Hunter Henry, which was probably a huge mistake in light of what $9 Isaiah Likely put up last night. Admittedly there will be lots of games where Mark Andrews actually shows up, so Likely will "likely" not (pun intended) continue to put up numbers like he did last night. But you gotta love your choice if yours is one of the 1,062 entries that rostered him.

It's sooo good to have football back! Looking forward to another game this evening!
 
Bottom line: I think participation in the Subscriber Contest all boils down to common sense economics. I'm not sure we should be really be surprised that more people do not enter. And in defense of keeping the contest.... with 11,695 entries, I believe only $2 per subscription likely covers the cost of the contest prize pool.

I think peak interest in something like the Subscriber Contest was probably a decade ago. Once DFS became mainstream there were way more compelling options, and now with legal sports betting there are even more. It's a free contest so no one's complaining, but the reality is the price of a FBG subscription has gone up probably 3-4x in the last 20 years and the grand prize is actually less now than it was back then. And I imagine the cognitive load of putting together an 18+ player salary cap roster that has to last all season for a tiny shot at a prize isn't worth the effort for most folks. You can hop on DraftKings right now and build a lineup in seconds that will give you a shot at winning $1M tonight.

Like a lot of folks here, I do it mainly for the challenge, and the discussion, and nostalgia. At this point it's been 20 years, it's an annual tradition for me. But if some other site launched a similar free contest I doubt I'd waste the time to enter. I just don't think it's that compelling for most folks.

Thanks for the feedback. That's super interesting when we're putting $35,000 actual dollars into it.

This is helpful to know and we'll factor this in for the future.
Thank you @Joe Bryant for this awesome contest. No matter what you decide in the future, PLEASE do not ever drop this contest. So many of us here would simply go nuts if that ever happened!
 
Hill is gonna be huge for those who spent the $2. I should have :kicksrock:

-QG
I'm not too worried. I think BAL was playing behind, so it makes sense that the passing RB was in more often. I think very game script oriented. If it was a lead, it would have been more Henry. Maybe I'm wrong, but that was my thinking as I watched the game.
 
Bottom line: I think participation in the Subscriber Contest all boils down to common sense economics. I'm not sure we should be really be surprised that more people do not enter. And in defense of keeping the contest.... with 11,695 entries, I believe only $2 per subscription likely covers the cost of the contest prize pool.

I think peak interest in something like the Subscriber Contest was probably a decade ago. Once DFS became mainstream there were way more compelling options, and now with legal sports betting there are even more. It's a free contest so no one's complaining, but the reality is the price of a FBG subscription has gone up probably 3-4x in the last 20 years and the grand prize is actually less now than it was back then. And I imagine the cognitive load of putting together an 18+ player salary cap roster that has to last all season for a tiny shot at a prize isn't worth the effort for most folks. You can hop on DraftKings right now and build a lineup in seconds that will give you a shot at winning $1M tonight.

Like a lot of folks here, I do it mainly for the challenge, and the discussion, and nostalgia. At this point it's been 20 years, it's an annual tradition for me. But if some other site launched a similar free contest I doubt I'd waste the time to enter. I just don't think it's that compelling for most folks.

Thanks for the feedback. That's super interesting when we're putting $35,000 actual dollars into it.

This is helpful to know and we'll factor this in for the future.

Yeah, look like I said it's a free contest so no one's complaining, and I love it for reasons beyond the prize pool and would play in it even if the grand prize was just bragging rights.

But if the question is "why don't more people care about this contest?" I think the answer is that a relatively complicated season-long contest with a $35k total prize pool just doesn't resonate in the 2024 landscape like it did in 2006.
 
@Joe Bryant and @Contest Turk

I have a suggestion - @Army Eye yearlong tracker isn't used by folks as a live scoring option, but it is awesome! Here is my team from last year...

If Army Eye is willing to do this again, it may be worth it to simply offer him a free yearly subscription. I assume that would be less $$ than having a staff member take the time to recreate the same thing. Actually, I think Army Eye would make a pretty penny if he did it for free, then posted a link for us regulars to donate. As for live scoring, sure, it would be nice to have real time scoring, but the site already provides scoring updates in chunks. A combo of FBG's chunk scoring updates and Army Eye's weekly tracker is all that's needed. The contest analyzer is already in full swing and works like a champ!

And lastly, as for the contest itself, please, never ever get rid of it! It's the only reason I am a paying subscriber. It only takes 700 members x $50 to make it to $35K, and I am sure way more than 700 folks would stop being paying members if this contest stopped. I would still be a Shark Pool regular, but would be devastated to lose the one thing I love most about FF.
 
Actually, I think Army Eye would make a pretty penny if he did it for free, then posted a link for us regulars to donate.

Eh, I ran a site for the subscriber contest for ~5 years that did live scoring, querying, all kinds of stats and cool features imo, and accepted donations and it was definitely not a profitable venture. I recall the guys who did it before and after me expressing the same. I'm not complaining, I expected nothing and I did it for the love of the game, and the donations helped offset some of the hosting costs but don't think I ever had enough left over to pay for my subscription. A free sub from FBGs would be a nice gesture for whoever's building the tools these days. IIRC there was some concern about the legality of receiving compensation for a tool built on an NFL stats feed that I was definitely not paying for (lol), but if there's no live scoring involved that's probably not a concern.
 
Actually, I think Army Eye would make a pretty penny if he did it for free, then posted a link for us regulars to donate.

Eh, I ran a site for the subscriber contest for ~5 years that did live scoring, querying, all kinds of stats and cool features imo, and accepted donations and it was definitely not a profitable venture. I recall the guys who did it before and after me expressing the same. I'm not complaining, I expected nothing and I did it for the love of the game, and the donations helped offset some of the hosting costs but don't think I ever had enough left over to pay for my subscription. A free sub from FBGs would be a nice gesture for whoever's building the tools these days. IIRC there was some concern about the legality of receiving compensation for a tool built on an NFL stats feed that I was definitely not paying for (lol), but if there's no live scoring involved that's probably not a concern.
Hey @Army Eye did you pay anything out of pocket for running last year's tracker? I assumed it was free to you.
 
11,728 entries
From the numbers below, it looks like around 2.75 QB's would be the sweet spot

QB
1 = 401
2 = 6430
3 = 4209
4 = 543
5 = 79
6 = 29
7 = 17
8 = 7
9 = 5
10 = 3
11 = 4
14 = 1
 
Did we need a revamp? We can gladly drop what we're doing if others would rather use the app you have built.

It's an effort for us to maintain. Just let @Contest Turk know and we can drop what we're doing there if it's not good.

It used to be that when I looked up my contest team on FootballGuys, I could see my players' stats over the whole season (not just the current week). For some reason, that went away. I was disappointed by that, so I created an app to restore that functionality, and decided to share it with the folks here.

To be clear, my app is more like a 'skin' for people to view their own team, I'm not duplicating much of what is happening on your end: tabulating the standings, calculating the points, etc. I use the raw points data that the Turk makes available.

This is what our folks tell me:

In the old days, when you went to your team's page, it showed a grid that had each player's points for each week of the season. Now it only has the current week's scores, and you have to click a link to see a different week.

Is the old way preferable? How much more preferable?
I know I liked seeing all of the weeks so I could see how often I used each player.
 
Not to put you on the spot @Army Eye but are you going to create your thingy again?

Assuming FBG hasn't revamped their interface for the better, the thingy WILL return for 2024!!!
Your thingy was awesome last year, and I would gladly contribute a few bucks for the cause
What was it? Live scoring?
No, not live scoring. It was a link where, as long as you knew your 6 digit team number, you could follow your own team's weekly scoring. And even if you got booted, it would continue showing you how you did, all the way through the finals. As an example, here is my team from last year...
@TheWinz is there a way to figure out my team number from last year? I tried my team number into the tool and no team comes up, so I assume the number changes each year.
 
@TheWinz is there a way to figure out my team number from last year? I tried my team number into the tool and no team comes up, so I assume the number changes each year.
Yes, team numbers change every year. If you would recognize your team if you saw it, all you have to do is try every 6 digit number, hehehehe
 
Bottom line: I think participation in the Subscriber Contest all boils down to common sense economics. I'm not sure we should be really be surprised that more people do not enter. And in defense of keeping the contest.... with 11,695 entries, I believe only $2 per subscription likely covers the cost of the contest prize pool.

I think peak interest in something like the Subscriber Contest was probably a decade ago. Once DFS became mainstream there were way more compelling options, and now with legal sports betting there are even more. It's a free contest so no one's complaining, but the reality is the price of a FBG subscription has gone up probably 3-4x in the last 20 years and the grand prize is actually less now than it was back then. And I imagine the cognitive load of putting together an 18+ player salary cap roster that has to last all season for a tiny shot at a prize isn't worth the effort for most folks. You can hop on DraftKings right now and build a lineup in seconds that will give you a shot at winning $1M tonight.

Like a lot of folks here, I do it mainly for the challenge, and the discussion, and nostalgia. At this point it's been 20 years, it's an annual tradition for me. But if some other site launched a similar free contest I doubt I'd waste the time to enter. I just don't think it's that compelling for most folks.

Thanks for the feedback. That's super interesting when we're putting $35,000 actual dollars into it.

This is helpful to know and we'll factor this in for the future.
Plus they have to be a little deflated knowing they are all playing for second place.
 
All in all, I think in the first few weeks, you're just hoping for no injuries to your players, and that your kickers still have jobs. If you get booted this early, you probably would be missing the cut more than once.
 
All in all, I think in the first few weeks, you're just hoping for no injuries to your players, and that your kickers still have jobs. If you get booted this early, you probably would be missing the cut more than once.
All in all, I think in the first few weeks, you're just hoping for no injuries to your players, and that your kickers still have jobs. If you get booted this early, you probably would be missing the cut more than once.
My QB is already hurt. Hoping Love is ok, because my second qb is Will Levi’s.
 
Time for my team breakdown

QB - Patrick Mahomes - KC/6 - $27, Geno Smith - SEA/10 - $12
I went big with Mahomes, because I think he will throw for 5K and 40 TD's. The contest scoring is kind to passers - 6 per pass TD instead of 4, -1 per INT instead of -2, and 1 pt per 20 yds passing instead of 25 yds. I considered rostering only him, but even though his week 6 bye is early, over 63% of the teams will be eliminated by then. I went with Geno as my backup, but not because of his great week 6 matchup. In fact, he plays a tough SF D. I chose him because he stood out as a cheap guy with a nice receiving corps who I trusted more than the guys in his price range. In a perfect world I would only use Geno in week 6, but to expect nothing but great games from Mahomes is asking to be eliminated from the contest. In the end I wound up with the 11th most common QB (Smith - 1154) and the 16th (Mahomes - 641), and 1 of only 73 teams with the duo.

RB - Najee Harris - PIT/9 - $17, James Conner - ARI/11 - $17, Brian Robinson Jr. - WAS/14 - $13, Jerome Ford - CLE/10 - $11, J.K. Dobbins - LAC/5 - $8, Justice Hill - BAL/14 - $2
Harris is boring, but reliable. He and Mixon are the only 2 RB's to top 1200 combined in each of the last 3 seasons. Conner is a bit scary with his age/injury history but was priced well. Robinson isn't a complete dud in the passing game, and has nearly 30 pounds on his running mate. Ford is JAG, but does that really matter in FF when you are getting touches? I pivoted away from Chubb early on, when talk of his return kept getting pushed back. I pivoted towards Dobbins after a fellow poster provided video evidence of him in practice. He looked good, and Gus is not an obstacle for a healthy Dobbins. Lastly, I threw $2 at a guy who can play the 2023 Spears role. He may have only scored 8.5 FP on Thursday, but he outsnapped Derrick Henry, and was a big part of the passing game. My rarest RB is Najee, and even he has 741 followers.

WR - CeeDee Lamb - DAL/7 - $38, Malik Nabers - NYG/11 - $19, Rashee Rice - KC/6 - $13, Khalil Shakir - BUF/12 - $10, Jameson Williams - DET/5 - $10
Spent big on Lamb for 3 reasons. Reasons 1, 2, and 3 are Elliott, Dowdle, and Cook. When you can roster a WR who averaged 23.1 PPG in the contest last year, it's like you get to start an extra player. I chose the rookie Nabers when I realized I had no idea what other WR's were on the Giants roster. We all know Rice is discounted for the threat of suspension, but he'll avoid it until next year. I never really considered Curtis Samuel, but Keon Coleman did enter my mind. In the end, I stayed with my first hunch and chose Shakir as the WR to have from BUF. Also, I was part of the team that created the 18-20 player roster, and did not want the same WR's on my personal entry. Finally, any Shark Pooler who can read English must be rostering Jamo! I only rostered 5 WR's, because I trimmed off the fat. Even though my WR corps is common, I am 1 of only 3 with all 5.

TE - Jake Ferguson - DAL/7 - $17, George Kittle - SF/9 - $15, Taysom Hill - NO/12 - $8
Jake from State Farm was Dak's second favorite target last year, and that will be the case again in 2024. Kind of risky to spend $55 on a WR/TE combo from the same team, but their bye is early, and they are my only players off week 7. Kittle was priced as the TE9, and has bettered that the last 3 seasons. He hasn't finished below TE7 in PPG since his rookie season 7 years ago. Plus, I get to root for George Kittle! And here's a fun fact - no TE has more TD's over the last 4 years than Taysom Hill. If you can roster him as a TE, you do it. And if you can roster him as a TE in best ball, sit back and wait for the fireworks. Sure, he will put up a bunch of duds, but he will save your bacon from time to time. And if he gets extended play at QB, jackpot!

PK - Cameron Dicker - LAC/5 - $4, Joshua Karty - LAR/6 - $3
I did enough kicker research to realize there isn't a big difference in 2 cheapies versus 3, as long as they keep their jobs. And, as luck would have it, I found 2 cheapies with early byes I have faith in. Drafted rookie kickers are safer than you think. It's the undrafted ones, or the journeyman vets you have to worry about. As an added bonus, I got to make a homer pick of Dicker with a free dollar that was left over.

TD - Atlanta Falcons - ATL/12 - $3, Los Angeles Chargers - LAC/5 - $3
Playing against rookie QB's or turnover prone vets is really the only thing that matters in this scoring format. Sacks and INT's account for most of the D scoring, and they both have something in common - the opposing QB. Between these 2 teams, they get to feast on the following 6 QB's in the final 3 weeks - Gardner Minshew, Daniel Jones, Jayden Daniels, Baker Mayfield, Bo Nix, and Drake Maye.
 
Time for my team breakdown

QB - Patrick Mahomes - KC/6 - $27, Geno Smith - SEA/10 - $12
I went big with Mahomes, because I think he will throw for 5K and 40 TD's. The contest scoring is kind to passers - 6 per pass TD instead of 4, -1 per INT instead of -2, and 1 pt per 20 yds passing instead of 25 yds. I considered rostering only him, but even though his week 6 bye is early, over 63% of the teams will be eliminated by then. I went with Geno as my backup, but not because of his great week 6 matchup. In fact, he plays a tough SF D. I chose him because he stood out as a cheap guy with a nice receiving corps who I trusted more than the guys in his price range. In a perfect world I would only use Geno in week 6, but to expect nothing but great games from Mahomes is asking to be eliminated from the contest. In the end I wound up with the 11th most common QB (Smith - 1154) and the 16th (Mahomes - 641), and 1 of only 73 teams with the duo.

RB - Najee Harris - PIT/9 - $17, James Conner - ARI/11 - $17, Brian Robinson Jr. - WAS/14 - $13, Jerome Ford - CLE/10 - $11, J.K. Dobbins - LAC/5 - $8, Justice Hill - BAL/14 - $2
Harris is boring, but reliable. He and Mixon are the only 2 RB's to top 1200 combined in each of the last 3 seasons. Conner is a bit scary with his age/injury history but was priced well. Robinson isn't a complete dud in the passing game, and has nearly 30 pounds on his running mate. Ford is JAG, but does that really matter in FF when you are getting touches? I pivoted away from Chubb early on, when talk of his return kept getting pushed back. I pivoted towards Dobbins after a fellow poster provided video evidence of him in practice. He looked good, and Gus is not an obstacle for a healthy Dobbins. Lastly, I threw $2 at a guy who can play the 2023 Spears role. He may have only scored 8.5 FP on Thursday, but he outsnapped Derrick Henry, and was a big part of the passing game. My rarest RB is Najee, and even he has 741 followers.

WR - CeeDee Lamb - DAL/7 - $38, Malik Nabers - NYG/11 - $19, Rashee Rice - KC/6 - $13, Khalil Shakir - BUF/12 - $10, Jameson Williams - DET/5 - $10
Spent big on Lamb for 3 reasons. Reasons 1, 2, and 3 are Elliott, Dowdle, and Cook. When you can roster a WR who averaged 23.1 PPG in the contest last year, it's like you get to start an extra player. I chose the rookie Nabers when I realized I had no idea what other WR's were on the Giants roster. We all know Rice is discounted for the threat of suspension, but he'll avoid it until next year. I never really considered Curtis Samuel, but Keon Coleman did enter my mind. In the end, I stayed with my first hunch and chose Shakir as the WR to have from BUF. Also, I was part of the team that created the 18-20 player roster, and did not want the same WR's on my personal entry. Finally, any Shark Pooler who can read English must be rostering Jamo! I only rostered 5 WR's, because I trimmed off the fat. Even though my WR corps is common, I am 1 of only 3 with all 5.

TE - Jake Ferguson - DAL/7 - $17, George Kittle - SF/9 - $15, Taysom Hill - NO/12 - $8
Jake from State Farm was Dak's second favorite target last year, and that will be the case again in 2024. Kind of risky to spend $55 on a WR/TE combo from the same team, but their bye is early, and they are my only players off week 7. Kittle was priced as the TE9, and has bettered that the last 3 seasons. He hasn't finished below TE7 in PPG since his rookie season 7 years ago. Plus, I get to root for George Kittle! And here's a fun fact - no TE has more TD's over the last 4 years than Taysom Hill. If you can roster him as a TE, you do it. And if you can roster him as a TE in best ball, sit back and wait for the fireworks. Sure, he will put up a bunch of duds, but he will save your bacon from time to time. And if he gets extended play at QB, jackpot!

PK - Cameron Dicker - LAC/5 - $4, Joshua Karty - LAR/6 - $3
I did enough kicker research to realize there isn't a big difference in 2 cheapies versus 3, as long as they keep their jobs. And, as luck would have it, I found 2 cheapies with early byes I have faith in. Drafted rookie kickers are safer than you think. It's the undrafted ones, or the journeyman vets you have to worry about. As an added bonus, I got to make a homer pick of Dicker with a free dollar that was left over.

TD - Atlanta Falcons - ATL/12 - $3, Los Angeles Chargers - LAC/5 - $3
Playing against rookie QB's or turnover prone vets is really the only thing that matters in this scoring format. Sacks and INT's account for most of the D scoring, and they both have something in common - the opposing QB. Between these 2 teams, they get to feast on the following 6 QB's in the final 3 weeks - Gardner Minshew, Daniel Jones, Jayden Daniels, Baker Mayfield, Bo Nix, and Drake Maye.
Enjoyed the writeup. I like this team and it should be around for awhlie. One thing I will point out (and you pretty much make the case in the same statement), with only 11k teams in th contest most combiantions are going to be you. Instead of taking the time to check your five players and saying I'm only 1 of x teams with this combination, just say "I Like Football".
 
Time for my team breakdown

QB - Patrick Mahomes - KC/6 - $27, Geno Smith - SEA/10 - $12
I went big with Mahomes, because I think he will throw for 5K and 40 TD's. The contest scoring is kind to passers - 6 per pass TD instead of 4, -1 per INT instead of -2, and 1 pt per 20 yds passing instead of 25 yds. I considered rostering only him, but even though his week 6 bye is early, over 63% of the teams will be eliminated by then. I went with Geno as my backup, but not because of his great week 6 matchup. In fact, he plays a tough SF D. I chose him because he stood out as a cheap guy with a nice receiving corps who I trusted more than the guys in his price range. In a perfect world I would only use Geno in week 6, but to expect nothing but great games from Mahomes is asking to be eliminated from the contest. In the end I wound up with the 11th most common QB (Smith - 1154) and the 16th (Mahomes - 641), and 1 of only 73 teams with the duo.

RB - Najee Harris - PIT/9 - $17, James Conner - ARI/11 - $17, Brian Robinson Jr. - WAS/14 - $13, Jerome Ford - CLE/10 - $11, J.K. Dobbins - LAC/5 - $8, Justice Hill - BAL/14 - $2
Harris is boring, but reliable. He and Mixon are the only 2 RB's to top 1200 combined in each of the last 3 seasons. Conner is a bit scary with his age/injury history but was priced well. Robinson isn't a complete dud in the passing game, and has nearly 30 pounds on his running mate. Ford is JAG, but does that really matter in FF when you are getting touches? I pivoted away from Chubb early on, when talk of his return kept getting pushed back. I pivoted towards Dobbins after a fellow poster provided video evidence of him in practice. He looked good, and Gus is not an obstacle for a healthy Dobbins. Lastly, I threw $2 at a guy who can play the 2023 Spears role. He may have only scored 8.5 FP on Thursday, but he outsnapped Derrick Henry, and was a big part of the passing game. My rarest RB is Najee, and even he has 741 followers.

WR - CeeDee Lamb - DAL/7 - $38, Malik Nabers - NYG/11 - $19, Rashee Rice - KC/6 - $13, Khalil Shakir - BUF/12 - $10, Jameson Williams - DET/5 - $10
Spent big on Lamb for 3 reasons. Reasons 1, 2, and 3 are Elliott, Dowdle, and Cook. When you can roster a WR who averaged 23.1 PPG in the contest last year, it's like you get to start an extra player. I chose the rookie Nabers when I realized I had no idea what other WR's were on the Giants roster. We all know Rice is discounted for the threat of suspension, but he'll avoid it until next year. I never really considered Curtis Samuel, but Keon Coleman did enter my mind. In the end, I stayed with my first hunch and chose Shakir as the WR to have from BUF. Also, I was part of the team that created the 18-20 player roster, and did not want the same WR's on my personal entry. Finally, any Shark Pooler who can read English must be rostering Jamo! I only rostered 5 WR's, because I trimmed off the fat. Even though my WR corps is common, I am 1 of only 3 with all 5.

TE - Jake Ferguson - DAL/7 - $17, George Kittle - SF/9 - $15, Taysom Hill - NO/12 - $8
Jake from State Farm was Dak's second favorite target last year, and that will be the case again in 2024. Kind of risky to spend $55 on a WR/TE combo from the same team, but their bye is early, and they are my only players off week 7. Kittle was priced as the TE9, and has bettered that the last 3 seasons. He hasn't finished below TE7 in PPG since his rookie season 7 years ago. Plus, I get to root for George Kittle! And here's a fun fact - no TE has more TD's over the last 4 years than Taysom Hill. If you can roster him as a TE, you do it. And if you can roster him as a TE in best ball, sit back and wait for the fireworks. Sure, he will put up a bunch of duds, but he will save your bacon from time to time. And if he gets extended play at QB, jackpot!

PK - Cameron Dicker - LAC/5 - $4, Joshua Karty - LAR/6 - $3
I did enough kicker research to realize there isn't a big difference in 2 cheapies versus 3, as long as they keep their jobs. And, as luck would have it, I found 2 cheapies with early byes I have faith in. Drafted rookie kickers are safer than you think. It's the undrafted ones, or the journeyman vets you have to worry about. As an added bonus, I got to make a homer pick of Dicker with a free dollar that was left over.

TD - Atlanta Falcons - ATL/12 - $3, Los Angeles Chargers - LAC/5 - $3
Playing against rookie QB's or turnover prone vets is really the only thing that matters in this scoring format. Sacks and INT's account for most of the D scoring, and they both have something in common - the opposing QB. Between these 2 teams, they get to feast on the following 6 QB's in the final 3 weeks - Gardner Minshew, Daniel Jones, Jayden Daniels, Baker Mayfield, Bo Nix, and Drake Maye.

All well thought out choices, imho. You should do well if you manage to avoid the injury bug.

I considered many of the same players, but moved off several of them for various reasons, some which you mentioned.
 
Time for my team breakdown

QB - Patrick Mahomes - KC/6 - $27, Geno Smith - SEA/10 - $12
I went big with Mahomes, because I think he will throw for 5K and 40 TD's. The contest scoring is kind to passers - 6 per pass TD instead of 4, -1 per INT instead of -2, and 1 pt per 20 yds passing instead of 25 yds. I considered rostering only him, but even though his week 6 bye is early, over 63% of the teams will be eliminated by then. I went with Geno as my backup, but not because of his great week 6 matchup. In fact, he plays a tough SF D. I chose him because he stood out as a cheap guy with a nice receiving corps who I trusted more than the guys in his price range. In a perfect world I would only use Geno in week 6, but to expect nothing but great games from Mahomes is asking to be eliminated from the contest. In the end I wound up with the 11th most common QB (Smith - 1154) and the 16th (Mahomes - 641), and 1 of only 73 teams with the duo.

RB - Najee Harris - PIT/9 - $17, James Conner - ARI/11 - $17, Brian Robinson Jr. - WAS/14 - $13, Jerome Ford - CLE/10 - $11, J.K. Dobbins - LAC/5 - $8, Justice Hill - BAL/14 - $2
Harris is boring, but reliable. He and Mixon are the only 2 RB's to top 1200 combined in each of the last 3 seasons. Conner is a bit scary with his age/injury history but was priced well. Robinson isn't a complete dud in the passing game, and has nearly 30 pounds on his running mate. Ford is JAG, but does that really matter in FF when you are getting touches? I pivoted away from Chubb early on, when talk of his return kept getting pushed back. I pivoted towards Dobbins after a fellow poster provided video evidence of him in practice. He looked good, and Gus is not an obstacle for a healthy Dobbins. Lastly, I threw $2 at a guy who can play the 2023 Spears role. He may have only scored 8.5 FP on Thursday, but he outsnapped Derrick Henry, and was a big part of the passing game. My rarest RB is Najee, and even he has 741 followers.

WR - CeeDee Lamb - DAL/7 - $38, Malik Nabers - NYG/11 - $19, Rashee Rice - KC/6 - $13, Khalil Shakir - BUF/12 - $10, Jameson Williams - DET/5 - $10
Spent big on Lamb for 3 reasons. Reasons 1, 2, and 3 are Elliott, Dowdle, and Cook. When you can roster a WR who averaged 23.1 PPG in the contest last year, it's like you get to start an extra player. I chose the rookie Nabers when I realized I had no idea what other WR's were on the Giants roster. We all know Rice is discounted for the threat of suspension, but he'll avoid it until next year. I never really considered Curtis Samuel, but Keon Coleman did enter my mind. In the end, I stayed with my first hunch and chose Shakir as the WR to have from BUF. Also, I was part of the team that created the 18-20 player roster, and did not want the same WR's on my personal entry. Finally, any Shark Pooler who can read English must be rostering Jamo! I only rostered 5 WR's, because I trimmed off the fat. Even though my WR corps is common, I am 1 of only 3 with all 5.

TE - Jake Ferguson - DAL/7 - $17, George Kittle - SF/9 - $15, Taysom Hill - NO/12 - $8
Jake from State Farm was Dak's second favorite target last year, and that will be the case again in 2024. Kind of risky to spend $55 on a WR/TE combo from the same team, but their bye is early, and they are my only players off week 7. Kittle was priced as the TE9, and has bettered that the last 3 seasons. He hasn't finished below TE7 in PPG since his rookie season 7 years ago. Plus, I get to root for George Kittle! And here's a fun fact - no TE has more TD's over the last 4 years than Taysom Hill. If you can roster him as a TE, you do it. And if you can roster him as a TE in best ball, sit back and wait for the fireworks. Sure, he will put up a bunch of duds, but he will save your bacon from time to time. And if he gets extended play at QB, jackpot!

PK - Cameron Dicker - LAC/5 - $4, Joshua Karty - LAR/6 - $3
I did enough kicker research to realize there isn't a big difference in 2 cheapies versus 3, as long as they keep their jobs. And, as luck would have it, I found 2 cheapies with early byes I have faith in. Drafted rookie kickers are safer than you think. It's the undrafted ones, or the journeyman vets you have to worry about. As an added bonus, I got to make a homer pick of Dicker with a free dollar that was left over.

TD - Atlanta Falcons - ATL/12 - $3, Los Angeles Chargers - LAC/5 - $3
Playing against rookie QB's or turnover prone vets is really the only thing that matters in this scoring format. Sacks and INT's account for most of the D scoring, and they both have something in common - the opposing QB. Between these 2 teams, they get to feast on the following 6 QB's in the final 3 weeks - Gardner Minshew, Daniel Jones, Jayden Daniels, Baker Mayfield, Bo Nix, and Drake Maye.
Funny, I thought while reading this “I have the same exact RBs and TEs as @TheWinz ” and then double checked to confirm that that must’ve been 179 iterations ago. :)
But I did have those groupings at one point. Great minds? ;)
 
Actually, I think Army Eye would make a pretty penny if he did it for free, then posted a link for us regulars to donate.

Eh, I ran a site for the subscriber contest for ~5 years that did live scoring, querying, all kinds of stats and cool features imo, and accepted donations and it was definitely not a profitable venture. I recall the guys who did it before and after me expressing the same. I'm not complaining, I expected nothing and I did it for the love of the game, and the donations helped offset some of the hosting costs but don't think I ever had enough left over to pay for my subscription. A free sub from FBGs would be a nice gesture for whoever's building the tools these days. IIRC there was some concern about the legality of receiving compensation for a tool built on an NFL stats feed that I was definitely not paying for (lol), but if there's no live scoring involved that's probably not a concern.
Appreciate what you did for prior years, man.
 
@TheWinz - when can we see the deets?

I wanna know who the top owns are, and top by position.

I love this time of year :excited:

Also isn’t there a way to enter player combos to see how many teams there are with those same combos? I have this vague memory of such a thing. Or was that a peyote induced fever dream like Homer Simpson with the Guatemalan Insanity Pepper?

ETA: found it! The analyzer (really a terrible word that worst doesn’t sound at all like what it actually does) - link on contest page. :pickle
 
@TheWinz - when can we see the deets?

I wanna know who the top owns are, and top by position.

I love this time of year :excited:

Also isn’t there a way to enter player combos to see how many teams there are with those same combos? I have this vague memory of such a thing. Or was that a peyote induced fever dream like Homer Simpson with the Guatemalan Insanity Pepper?

ETA: found it! The analyzer (really a terrible word that worst doesn’t sound at all like what it actually does) - link on contest page. :pickle

 
@TheWinz - when can we see the deets?

I wanna know who the top owns are, and top by position.

I love this time of year :excited:

Also isn’t there a way to enter player combos to see how many teams there are with those same combos? I have this vague memory of such a thing. Or was that a peyote induced fever dream like Homer Simpson with the Guatemalan Insanity Pepper?

ETA: found it! The analyzer (really a terrible word that worst doesn’t sound at all like what it actually does) - link on contest page. :pickle

Yep!

I’m the only team with Rashee, Nico, Fergusen, KWIII, & Kyler Murray.

That may not be a good things. :oldunsure:
 

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