Wonder what this means for the freelance article winners, perhaps a redraft league now?Comments? I'm not a big fan of the format myself. Not a big loss to me at least.
Comments? I'm not a big fan of the format myself. Not a big loss to me at least.
I'd love a redraft league for that.Wonder what this means for the freelance article winners, perhaps a redraft league now?Comments? I'm not a big fan of the format myself. Not a big loss to me at least.
You and me both. Let Clayton know...I'd love a redraft league for that.Wonder what this means for the freelance article winners, perhaps a redraft league now?Comments? I'm not a big fan of the format myself. Not a big loss to me at least.
exactly. SpamersJoe did the right thing! This says a lot about Joe's character, FFTOC took a partners information and tried to use it for their own gain (selfish##### ).I have a tremendous amount of respect for Joe and David, and that respect went up another level.
Is this about the huge thread on spamalicious e-mails someone was receiving?Fill me in here..What happened?
Now I've got wood.with Suzy Kolber on a beach in Hawaii
Jason?Now I've got wood.with Suzy Kolber on a beach in Hawaii
Novelty check: $15Airfare to Hawaii: $800Being able to stand next to Suzy Kolber on the beach and tell her in a drunken slur, "I want to kiss you Suzy.": Priceless.There are some things money can't buy. For anything else, there is a drunken Joe Namath....But will anyone really care if you got to snap pictures with Suzy Kolber on a beach in Hawaii while holding a huge novelty check? I'd think you'd catch more grief than admiration for it.
exactly. SpamersJoe did the right thing! This says a lot about Joe's character, FFTOC took a partners information and tried to use it for their own gain (selfish##### ).I have a tremendous amount of respect for Joe and David, and that respect went up another level.
Is this the answer to "who used the FBG mailing list to send spam emails?"Joe did the right thing! This says a lot about Joe's character, FFTOC took a partners information and tried to use it for their own gain (selfish##### ).
I still don't understand what happened.
CB, Did our posts get deleted out of this thread?I'd love a redraft league for that.Wonder what this means for the freelance article winners, perhaps a redraft league now?Comments? I'm not a big fan of the format myself. Not a big loss to me at least.
Its just the money. A 5 figure check is nice to put in the bank.Is there really that much glory in winning these overblown national affairs?
Sure, there's a money payout if you are real skilled and real lucky. But will anyone really care if you got to snap pictures with Suzy Kolber on a beach in Hawaii while holding a huge novelty check? I'd think you'd catch more grief than admiration for it.
Yeah! I was just looking to see if you got wacked, LOL. I thought you were a bit tough on them, but it wasn't that bad. Now you'll have to join the Auction squad. Err..wait, Auction doesn't work. How about 2 regular redraft leagues with the auction guys and the FFTOC guys?CB, Did our posts get deleted out of this thread?I'd love a redraft league for that.Wonder what this means for the freelance article winners, perhaps a redraft league now?Comments? I'm not a big fan of the format myself. Not a big loss to me at least.
Interesting. I bet it was Shick. But I guess thats about right for him...I say something is true, FBG disagrees, it gets proven true, and then the evidence gets deleted.So yeah, with no FFTOC for the Message board team, are we doing another auction, or what?Yeah! I was just looking to see if you got wacked, LOL. I thought you were a bit tough on them, but it wasn't that bad. Now you'll have to join the Auction squad. Err..wait, Auction doesn't work. How about 2 regular redraft leagues with the auction guys and the FFTOC guys?CB, Did our posts get deleted out of this thread?I'd love a redraft league for that.Wonder what this means for the freelance article winners, perhaps a redraft league now?Comments? I'm not a big fan of the format myself. Not a big loss to me at least.
Well, there have been issues with the auction site, so I say that we do a real redraft league. That would be fun.Interesting. I bet it was Shick. But I guess thats about right for him...I say something is true, FBG disagrees, it gets proven true, and then the evidence gets deleted.So yeah, with no FFTOC for the Message board team, are we doing another auction, or what?Yeah! I was just looking to see if you got wacked, LOL. I thought you were a bit tough on them, but it wasn't that bad. Now you'll have to join the Auction squad. Err..wait, Auction doesn't work. How about 2 regular redraft leagues with the auction guys and the FFTOC guys?CB, Did our posts get deleted out of this thread?I'd love a redraft league for that.Wonder what this means for the freelance article winners, perhaps a redraft league now?Comments? I'm not a big fan of the format myself. Not a big loss to me at least.
I would like to hear the Studs and Duds take on all this.
Sounds fine. I was looking forward to seeing a 16 week FFTOC game play out though.What was the issue with the auction site?Well, there have been issues with the auction site, so I say that we do a real redraft league. That would be fun.Interesting. I bet it was Shick. But I guess thats about right for him...I say something is true, FBG disagrees, it gets proven true, and then the evidence gets deleted.So yeah, with no FFTOC for the Message board team, are we doing another auction, or what?Yeah! I was just looking to see if you got wacked, LOL. I thought you were a bit tough on them, but it wasn't that bad. Now you'll have to join the Auction squad. Err..wait, Auction doesn't work. How about 2 regular redraft leagues with the auction guys and the FFTOC guys?CB, Did our posts get deleted out of this thread?I'd love a redraft league for that.Wonder what this means for the freelance article winners, perhaps a redraft league now?Comments? I'm not a big fan of the format myself. Not a big loss to me at least.
Yeah, I liked the format of picking the team with a salary cap and then whomever on the team scores the most points is counted for that week and you have to be in the top half of your conference for the week in order to move on. I LOVED that format. I did not like picking players every week and not being able to pick them again....Comments? I'm not a big fan of the format myself. Not a big loss to me at least.
OMG WOW
um what the flip is FFOTC
Wasn't very stable, or at least Radballs said....Sounds fine. I was looking forward to seeing a 16 week FFTOC game play out though.What was the issue with the auction site?Well, there have been issues with the auction site, so I say that we do a real redraft league. That would be fun.Interesting. I bet it was Shick. But I guess thats about right for him...I say something is true, FBG disagrees, it gets proven true, and then the evidence gets deleted.So yeah, with no FFTOC for the Message board team, are we doing another auction, or what?Yeah! I was just looking to see if you got wacked, LOL. I thought you were a bit tough on them, but it wasn't that bad. Now you'll have to join the Auction squad. Err..wait, Auction doesn't work. How about 2 regular redraft leagues with the auction guys and the FFTOC guys?CB, Did our posts get deleted out of this thread?I'd love a redraft league for that.Wonder what this means for the freelance article winners, perhaps a redraft league now?Comments? I'm not a big fan of the format myself. Not a big loss to me at least.
I don't think they are closing up shop.If you like the format, I'm sure you can still play. It was rumored to once be called "the true test of FF skill" by a high ranking member of this site.It's too bad. I really like the FFTOC format and it was a breath of fresh air in a hobby that hasn't offered much new in the last several years. I hope the FFTOC still does well and finds another partner out there. Too many cookie-cutter leagues on the web right now and FFTOC is certainly something different.
Hi Map,It is their contention that when our FBG Subscribers entered the contest, their email addresses became part of the FFTOC database. We totally disagree. You guys that know me at all know how obsessed I get when it comes to protecting our guys emails. We have NEVER EVER allowed anyone to use our guy's emails for anything. This was no different. Their claim is that by entering the contest powered by FFTOC, that you "opted in" to their system and they can send you what they like. Again, we disagree.I have asked them repeatedly to remove all of the 2005 Footballguys Subscriber Contest emails from their database. To this point, they have not complied. They say they are "their" email addresses now. It's my sincere hope that they reverse that stance and remove your guys emails from their database.JI'm just interested now in finding out how long am I gonna have to put up with FFTOC spam mail ??I never had anything to do with them till last seasons contest ... and now I'm getting email from them on a very regular basis ... just more spam so no big deal ... but it is the principal of the thing ... they had no right glomming onto Footballguys mail list from last years contest because that was a list provided to them on a business to business transaction and they had no right's to utilize that list without Footballguys permission I would imagine !Bad Karma ... stealing from FBG's !!!
Can someone link me to the post where Joe B said that he split ties with FFTOC because they used FBG's email without permission?The only thing I read was that FBG split ties with FFTOC for "undisclosed reasons."I'm failing to see where everyone is getting the info that the unsolicited email use was the cause.TIA(just trying to get to the bottom of this)Way to stand up for your principles on this one J.AB
Well, as I did not enter any of their contests, this hasn't really affected me.It is very nice to see FootballGuys is stand-up though!!Hi Map,It is their contention that when our FBG Subscribers entered the contest, their email addresses became part of the FFTOC database. We totally disagree. You guys that know me at all know how obsessed I get when it comes to protecting our guys emails. We have NEVER EVER allowed anyone to use our guy's emails for anything. This was no different. Their claim is that by entering the contest powered by FFTOC, that you "opted in" to their system and they can send you what they like. Again, we disagree.I have asked them repeatedly to remove all of the 2005 Footballguys Subscriber Contest emails from their database. To this point, they have not complied. They say they are "their" email addresses now. It's my sincere hope that they reverse that stance and remove your guys emails from their database.JI'm just interested now in finding out how long am I gonna have to put up with FFTOC spam mail ??I never had anything to do with them till last seasons contest ... and now I'm getting email from them on a very regular basis ... just more spam so no big deal ... but it is the principal of the thing ... they had no right glomming onto Footballguys mail list from last years contest because that was a list provided to them on a business to business transaction and they had no right's to utilize that list without Footballguys permission I would imagine !Bad Karma ... stealing from FBG's !!!
3 posts up from your post?Can someone link me to the post where Joe B said that he split ties with FFTOC because they used FBG's email without permission?The only thing I read was that FBG split ties with FFTOC for "undisclosed reasons."I'm failing to see where everyone is getting the info that the unsolicited email use was the cause.TIA(just trying to get to the bottom of this)Way to stand up for your principles on this one J.AB
Ummm....look up 3 posts from yours.Can someone link me to the post where Joe B said that he split ties with FFTOC because they used FBG's email without permission?The only thing I read was that FBG split ties with FFTOC for "undisclosed reasons."I'm failing to see where everyone is getting the info that the unsolicited email use was the cause.TIA(just trying to get to the bottom of this)Way to stand up for your principles on this one J.AB
Hi JoeT,Sorry, this is the bottom of it from us:(just trying to get to the bottom of this)
JWe told you a while back that Footballguys was going to be a 50% owner in the FFTOC contests. Based on complications we don't plan on discussing publicly, that is not going to happen. We have no financial or business interests with regard to the FFTOC going forward. Instead, we'll be doing what we've always done for you - be right here focusing 100% of our attention and efforts on one thing - Bringing you everything you need to Dominate Your League.
Big to FBG from me on this issue.Hi Map,It is their contention that when our FBG Subscribers entered the contest, their email addresses became part of the FFTOC database. We totally disagree. You guys that know me at all know how obsessed I get when it comes to protecting our guys emails. We have NEVER EVER allowed anyone to use our guy's emails for anything. This was no different. Their claim is that by entering the contest powered by FFTOC, that you "opted in" to their system and they can send you what they like. Again, we disagree.I have asked them repeatedly to remove all of the 2005 Footballguys Subscriber Contest emails from their database. To this point, they have not complied. They say they are "their" email addresses now. It's my sincere hope that they reverse that stance and remove your guys emails from their database.JI'm just interested now in finding out how long am I gonna have to put up with FFTOC spam mail ??I never had anything to do with them till last seasons contest ... and now I'm getting email from them on a very regular basis ... just more spam so no big deal ... but it is the principal of the thing ... they had no right glomming onto Footballguys mail list from last years contest because that was a list provided to them on a business to business transaction and they had no right's to utilize that list without Footballguys permission I would imagine !Bad Karma ... stealing from FBG's !!!
I thought you and David were 50% owners?Hi Map,It is their contention that when our FBG Subscribers entered the contest, their email addresses became part of the FFTOC database. We totally disagree. You guys that know me at all know how obsessed I get when it comes to protecting our guys emails. We have NEVER EVER allowed anyone to use our guy's emails for anything. This was no different. Their claim is that by entering the contest powered by FFTOC, that you "opted in" to their system and they can send you what they like. Again, we disagree.I have asked them repeatedly to remove all of the 2005 Footballguys Subscriber Contest emails from their database. To this point, they have not complied. They say they are "their" email addresses now. It's my sincere hope that they reverse that stance and remove your guys emails from their database.JI'm just interested now in finding out how long am I gonna have to put up with FFTOC spam mail ??I never had anything to do with them till last seasons contest ... and now I'm getting email from them on a very regular basis ... just more spam so no big deal ... but it is the principal of the thing ... they had no right glomming onto Footballguys mail list from last years contest because that was a list provided to them on a business to business transaction and they had no right's to utilize that list without Footballguys permission I would imagine !Bad Karma ... stealing from FBG's !!!